Thursday, 10 March 2016

146) “The ball-Earth model claims the Moon orbits around the Earth once every 28 days, yet it is plain for anyone to see that the Moon orbits around the Earth every single day! The Moon’s orbit is slightly slower than the Sun’s, but follows the Sun’s same path from Tropic to Tropic, solstice to solstice, making a full circle over the Earth in just under 25 hours.”

So the moon orbits the earth, with a full orbit completed roughly every 28 days. The earth, meanwhile, spins (causing day and night) which means the moon seems to orbit every day; that's just the view that everything spins around the earth instead.

Here, Mr Dubay show he doesn't understand that, claim the moon orbits the earth every day and that somehow, science got it wrong.

Science didn't; the moon apparently orbits the earth every day, due to a chance of reference frame (non-inertial). However, the moon actually orbits the earth every 28 days, which causes a shift in position for that perspective. The model becomes very complicated when you add that in. 

Dubay's libration-ignoring, vaguely mentioned moon is a disc that changes angle; so he has two separate motions (orbit and spin) instead of one motion (orbit) to explain the moon. And he still doesn't explain libration, which doesn't happen for the disc. (Thanks to Daimonie)

Incomprehension of the model.

Mr. Dubay kindly debunks his own claim himself by saying:

"The Moon’s orbit is slightly slower than the Sun’s, but follows the Sun’s same path from Tropic to Tropic, solstice to solstice, making a full circle over the Earth in just under 25 hours"

Exactly. Well not exactly, actually, because it can be up to 5.15° away from the ecliptic (sun's path), but good enough.


So why is it that the moon makes a full circle in 25 and not 24 hours? Why is it around one 29th off from a full (synodic) rotation after each day? And how many days would it logically need to get back to its starting position? Guess what, it's 29 days and you just discovered the moon's orbit!

http://200proofsearthisnotflat.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/debunking-dubay-140-149200.html

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