186) “People sensitive to motion sickness feel distinct unease and physical discomfort from motion as slight as an elevator or a train ride. This means that the 1000mph alleged uniform spin of the Earth has no effect on such people, but add an extra 50mph uniform velocity of a car and their stomach starts turning knots. The idea that motion sickness is nowhere apparent in anyone at 1000mph, but suddenly comes about at 1050mph is ridiculous and proves the Earth is not in motion whatsoever.”

Already covered in point 121 and point 122, this is also the previous point repeated:

Since Mr Dubay loves to repeat himself, it seems I will have to, as well.

I’ve already answered “we can’t feel the Earth moving.”’ Again, we never feel movement; we feel changes in movement. If we were in a very smooth and silent train, running down very even unjointed rails on a dead-straight track at an unchanging speed, we wouldn’t feel or hear a thing. If the blinds were closed, we could not tell that we were moving at all.

Of course, no real vehicle is every that perfect; there are always some little jiggles or sways, at least. But the Earth doesn’t rest on a road, or run on rails. It moves at a constant pace and a constant course through the empty vacuum of space. What is there to jiggle us?

When we feel the motion of a car, it's because the driver has turned  the wheel, or braked or accelerated, or because an unevenness in the road made the car lurch sideways or up and down. None of these changes in course or speed happen to the earth. So there is nothing for us to feel.

Dubay says; "This means that the 1000mph alleged uniform spin of the Earth has no effect on such people, but add an extra 50mph uniform velocity of a car and their stomach starts turning knots."

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But it is not the extra 50 mph in itself that causes sickness, but the smaller repeated swaying, jiggling, turning motions, which confuse the motion-sensitive parts of our inner ears. There's nothing in space to cause the earth to make such small jumps, swerves and wiggles, so there is no motion sickness.

When we feel motion, it is because there are tiny hairlike sensor in our semicircular canals 

(http://www.asha.org/public/hearing/How-Our-Balance-System-Works/)  in our inner ears, immersed in fluid. When the fluid is jiggled, the hairs pick up the motion and transmit a signal to out brains, so that we feel the sensation of a change in the direction or rate of movement.  But the earth never changes direction or jolts , so what is there to feel?

Anticipating a misunderstanding: yes, the path of the earth is a curve (an ellipse –nearly but not quite a circle). But that won’t give the sensation of “turning a corner. The orbit of th earth is as it is precisely because it is an exact balance between the gravitational attraction of the sun and the outward effect of ‘centrifugal force (actually inertia. And the strength of both of these is constant over time, so there is no change for your inner ear to sense.

http://www.asha.org/public/hearing/How-Our-Balance-System-Works/

185) “We are told that the Earth and atmosphere spin together at such a perfect uniform velocity that no one in history has ever seen, heard, felt or measured the supposed 1000mph movement. This is then often compared to traveling in a car at uniform velocity, where we only feel the movement during acceleration or deceleration. In reality, however, even with eyes closed, windows up, over smooth tar in a luxury car at a mere uniform 50mph, the movement absolutely can be felt! At 20 times this speed, Earth’s imaginary 1000mph spin would most certainly be noticeable, felt, seen and heard by all.”

Already covered in point 121 and point 122: 

Since Mr Dubay loves to repeat himself, it seems I will have to repeat the answer, as well.

I’ve already answered “we can’t feel the Earth moving.”’ Again, we never feel movement; we feel changes in movement. If we were in a very smooth and silent train, running down very even unjointed rails on a dead-straight track at an unchanging speed, we wouldn’t feel or hear a thing. If the blinds were closed, we could not tell that we were moving at all.

Of course, no real vehicle is every that perfect; there are always some little jiggles or sways, at least.

But the Earth doesn’t rest on a road, or run on rails. It moves at a constant pace and a constant course through the empty vacuum of space.

What is there to jiggle us? When we feel the motion of a car, it's because the driver has turned  the wheel, or braked or accelerated, or because an unevenness in the road made the car lurch sideways or up and down. None of these changes in course or speed happen to the earth. So there is nothing for us to feel.

When we feel motion, it is because there are tiny hairlike sensor in our semicircular canalhttp://www.asha.org/public/hearing/How-Our-Balance-System-Works/ in our inner ears, immersed in fluid. When the fluid is jiggled, the hairs pick up the motion and transmit a signal to out brains, so that we feel the sensation of a change in the direction or rate of movement.  But the earth never changes direction or jolts , so what is there to feel?

Anticipating a misunderstanding: yes, the path of the earth is a curve (an ellipse –nearly but not quite a circle). But that won’t give the sensation of “turning a corner. The orbit of th earth is as it is precisely because it is an exact balance between the gravitational attraction of the sun and the outward effect of ‘centrifugal force (actually inertia. And the strength of both of these is constant over time, so there is no change for your inner ear to sense.

http://www.asha.org/public/hearing/How-Our-Balance-System-Works/

184)" Flights Eastwards from Paris to Rome with the alleged spin of the ball-Earth take an average of 2 hours, therefore the return flights Westwards against the alleged spin should take an average of 1 hour, but in actual fact have an average flight duration of 2 hours 10 minutes, a flight time totally inconsistent with the spinning ball model."


Yet another repeated claim that is contrary to observation. As I said in the last two claims:

Oh dear, we are back to this again. Mr Dubay doesn't believe that the atmosphere turns too, and doesn't understand what that implies. 

I won't repeat the points covered before in claims 20, 21 and 22,  claim 25, claim 27 and at tedious length at other points. 

By the way, remember the coriolis effect - you know, the one whose effect on storms proves that the earth is a globe -  does affect the routes aircraft have to take. this is well known to all flight navigators, and is yet more evidence for the spherical earth. 


More on how coriolis changes flight paths:

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es1904/es1904page01.cfm

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1000224/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/rotation-earth-toilet-baseball3.htm

183) "Flights Eastwards from Chicago to Boston with the alleged spin of the ball-Earth take an average of 2.25 hours, therefore the return flights Westwards against the alleged spin should take an average of just over an hour, but in actual fact take an average of 2.75 hours, once again, completely inconsistent with the spinning ball model."

The same claim again, and one that's been refuted repeatedly 

 Mr Dubay doesn't believe that the atmosphere turns too, and doesn't understand what that implies. 

I won't repeat the points covered before in claims 20, 21 and 22,  claim 25, claim 27 and at tedious length at other points. 

By the way, remember the coriolis effect - you know, the one whose effect on storms proves that the earth is a globe -  does affect the routes aircraft have to take. this is well known to all flight navigators, and is yet more evidence for the spherical earth. 


More on how coriolis changes flight paths:

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es1904/es1904page01.cfm

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1000224/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/rotation-earth-toilet-baseball3.htm

182) "Flights Eastwards with the alleged spin of the ball-Earth from NY to London take an average of 7 hours, therefore the return flights Westwards against the alleged spin should take an average of 3.5 hours, but in actual fact take an average of 7.5 hours, a flight time totally inconsistent with the spinning ball model."

I'll repeat the previous reply yet again for you convenience, since this is the same issue.

Oh dear, we are back to this again. Mr Dubay doesn't believe that the atmosphere turns too, and doesn't understand what that implies. 

I won't repeat the points covered before in claims 20, 21 and 22,  claim 25, claim 27 and at tedious length at other points. 

By the way, remember the coriolis effect - you know, the one whose effect on storms proves that the earth is a globe -  does affect the routes aircraft have to take. this is well known to all flight navigators, and is yet more evidence for the spherical earth. 


More on how coriolis changes flight paths:

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es1904/es1904page01.cfm

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1000224/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/rotation-earth-toilet-baseball3.htm

181) “Flights Eastwards with the alleged spin of the ball-Earth from Tokyo to LA take an average of 10.5 hours, therefore the return flights Westwards against the alleged spin should take an average of 5.25 hours, but in actual fact take an average of 11.5 hours, another flight time totally inconsistent with the spinning ball model.”

Yet another repeated claim that is contrary to observation. As I said in the last two claims:

Oh dear, we are back to this again. Mr Dubay doesn't believe that the atmosphere turns too, and doesn't understand what that implies. 

I won't repeat the points covered before in claims 20, 21 and 22,  claim 25, claim 27 and at tedious length at other points. 

By the way, remember the coriolis effect - you know, the one whose effect on storms proves that the earth is a globe -  does affect the routes aircraft have to take. this is well known to all flight navigators, and is yet more evidence for the spherical earth. 


More on how coriolis changes flight paths:

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es1904/es1904page01.cfm

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1000224/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/rotation-earth-toilet-baseball3.htm

180) “The spinning ball model dictates that the Earth and atmosphere would be moving together at approximately 500mph at the mid-latitudes where an LA to NYC flight takes place. The average commercial airliner traveling 500mph takes 5.5 hours traveling East with the alleged rotation of the Earth, so the return flight West should take only 2.75 hours, but in fact we find the average NYC to LA flight takes 6 hours, a flight time totally inconsistent with the spinning ball model.”

I'll repeat the previous reply here for you convenience, since this is the same issue.

Oh dear, we are back to this again. Mr Dubay doesn't believe that the atmosphere turns too, and doesn't understand what that implies. 

I won't repeat the points covered before in claims 20, 21 and 22,  claim 25, claim 27 and at tedious length at other points. 

By the way, remember the coriolis effect - you know, the one whose effect on storms proves that the earth is a globe -  does affect the routes aircraft have to take. this is well known to all flight navigators, and is yet more evidence for the spherical earth. 


More on how coriolis changes flight paths:

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es1904/es1904page01.cfm

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/questions/question/1000224/

http://science.howstuffworks.com/science-vs-myth/everyday-myths/rotation-earth-toilet-baseball3.htm